nefan65
Dec 22, 11:47 AM
I support PCs and servers in my job, along with Macs as we're a mixed shop.
I can say without a shadow of a doubt what you put down has little basis in reality. Yes, windows machines take longer to boot up, but not always because of the the antivirus software.
They take longer because IT (me and my co workers) we make sure that group policies are pushed out on every reboot, so the machines are fairly locked down. We also push out updates to software automatically and also yes do virus scans.
For IT to take macs serious, they will need to easily apply group policies to the computer remotely and automatically. Have applications available that allows them to update client applications.
The cost of such is generally to a degree that makes using macs not feasible.
btw, I get just as many calls regarding problems with macs as I do with PCs. In fact many enterprise applications have some major compatibility issues with Safari.
Total Cost of Ownership, up time, training support and efficiencies all point to using PCs over a Mac.
Just because apple fanboys say its cheaper in the long run means its true, quite the opposite. Asset depreciation of Macs is the same as PCs, so there's no financial incentive for a business to hold on to a mac longer then a PC, and actually its negative to hold on to an asset when its fully depreciated even if its still functional. This throws the idea that macs last longer out the door when dealing with business and depreciation
So why buy a computer that costs 2x more then another, has less ability to support/manage remotely. Has the same level of support required, i.e., support calls for users who need help, has some serious compatibility issues with some enterprise applications and also requires a fair amount of re-training for both the users and support staff.
The last paragraph is your opinion and experience. As for full depreciation; what are you talking about? I've yet to meet a CFO that cares about using a desktop system that's completely depreciated. In your scenario, it's off the books, so throw it out the window...? You're right, most PC's/Laptops are fully depreciated at the end of 3 years, so there is no advantage for Mac over a PC. That's where a lot businesses AND IT people miss the boat. That's why there's more and more push to Cloud [Private as it relates to this] for applications allowing staff to use what they want. Having a narrow minded approach like this in business will cripple it. The true cost of savings is not having to push out applications, or install applications on 100's of systems. It's publishing the apps to be used on anything; PC, Laptop, Mac, Linux, Tablets, Phones, etc...
I can say without a shadow of a doubt what you put down has little basis in reality. Yes, windows machines take longer to boot up, but not always because of the the antivirus software.
They take longer because IT (me and my co workers) we make sure that group policies are pushed out on every reboot, so the machines are fairly locked down. We also push out updates to software automatically and also yes do virus scans.
For IT to take macs serious, they will need to easily apply group policies to the computer remotely and automatically. Have applications available that allows them to update client applications.
The cost of such is generally to a degree that makes using macs not feasible.
btw, I get just as many calls regarding problems with macs as I do with PCs. In fact many enterprise applications have some major compatibility issues with Safari.
Total Cost of Ownership, up time, training support and efficiencies all point to using PCs over a Mac.
Just because apple fanboys say its cheaper in the long run means its true, quite the opposite. Asset depreciation of Macs is the same as PCs, so there's no financial incentive for a business to hold on to a mac longer then a PC, and actually its negative to hold on to an asset when its fully depreciated even if its still functional. This throws the idea that macs last longer out the door when dealing with business and depreciation
So why buy a computer that costs 2x more then another, has less ability to support/manage remotely. Has the same level of support required, i.e., support calls for users who need help, has some serious compatibility issues with some enterprise applications and also requires a fair amount of re-training for both the users and support staff.
The last paragraph is your opinion and experience. As for full depreciation; what are you talking about? I've yet to meet a CFO that cares about using a desktop system that's completely depreciated. In your scenario, it's off the books, so throw it out the window...? You're right, most PC's/Laptops are fully depreciated at the end of 3 years, so there is no advantage for Mac over a PC. That's where a lot businesses AND IT people miss the boat. That's why there's more and more push to Cloud [Private as it relates to this] for applications allowing staff to use what they want. Having a narrow minded approach like this in business will cripple it. The true cost of savings is not having to push out applications, or install applications on 100's of systems. It's publishing the apps to be used on anything; PC, Laptop, Mac, Linux, Tablets, Phones, etc...
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